Decolonising our universities: time for change

Editors’ note: in late July we posted an entry (‘Decolonising our universities: another world is desirable‘) that profiled a conference statement reflecting significant unease regarding the dominance of the ‘Western’ model of higher education, including the university. A few weeks later, Ben Wildavsky posted a response (‘Academic Colonialism, False Consciousness, and the Western University Ideal‘). In our minds both contributions include valid points, but they both contain a significant number of generalizations: lines are drawn, and nuance and shades of grey are missing — a point one of us (Kris Olds) also made in a mid-August dialogue via Twitter with Ben Wildavsky, though Ben obviously disagreed!

In any case, the debate continues below, for one of the conference organizers (Professor C. K. Raju, School of Mathematical Sciences, Universiti Sains Malaysia) has now submitted a response to Ben Wildavsky’s critical take on the conference statement, and the ideas associated with it. We’ve posted Professor Raju’s text below, unedited, for it is clear that the issues are of some concern to many parties, and we don’t agree with Wildavsky that it is “condescending, not respectful, to murmur sympathetically in response to nonsense.” In our mind it is better to air thoughts, and interrogate them. For example, we have some concerns with C.K. Raju’s use of broad categorizations like “Western” and “non-Western,” and how they are associated with supposedly unified perspectives and institutional spaces. However, we do think the views of C.K Raju deserve an airing, and we are aware that they link into a variety of other currents of thought and initiatives  — some connected, some not — around the university as a ‘political project’ aimed at promoting particular kinds of knowledge and identities. For instance,  last week one of us (Susan) attended a conference in Bristol on the new role of the university and its role in innovation. A fascinating paper was presented by Surja Datta on the history of India’s first university and the key role it played in providing lower-level civil servants who would rule in the interests of the British empire. His argument was that this particular form of the university in India has been detrimental to India’s system of innovation.  The establishment of an indigenous Maori university in New Zealand–Te Whare Wānanga o Awanuiārangi–with a focus on local  knowledge and pedagogical approaches, is a further example of an initiative that aims at confronting the political/colonial nature of the university and its system of knowledge.  Finally, one of us (Kris) was in Washington DC last week at a NAFSA meeting, and an interesting discussion emerged about a new International Association of Universities (IAU) initiative designed to “re-examine the concept of internationalization.” As the IAU puts it:

Is the concept and the definition of internationalization keeping up with developments in higher education? Is there a shared understanding of the concept? Has internationalization lost sight of its central purposes?

IAU is posing these and other questions in a reflection directly in line with the findings of the 3rd Global Survey on Internationalization. The Survey clearly points out the differences in why internationalization is pursued in different parts of the world and how it impacts on various institutions in vastly diverse contexts. Furthermore, this initiative is a natural sequel to past normative efforts of the Association, such as the Policy Statement and Declaration and Checklist for Good Practice. The Ad hoc international Expert Group was created to bring together perspectives from all parts of the world inter alia to: assess the extent to which internationalization activities fit the current conceptual umbrella, to critically examine the causes that are leading to some questioning and even criticism of the concept and to investigate the ways to address these concerns.

We’d like to thank both C.K. Raju and Ben Wildavsky for engaging in this debate. We also look forward to insights that might be generated by the IAU’s initiative on Re-thinking Internationalization.

Kris Olds & Susan Robertson

ps: please note that there are endnotes in the response below.

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In his comments1 on the Penang conference on “Decolonising our universities”.2 Wildavsky suggests that the conference produced only silly rhetoric and complaints. Such deprecatory attitudes are commonplace,3 hence a systematic result of Western education.

That takes us to the roots of the differences between the Western university model and the non-Western models of higher learning. Those alternative models are provided, for example, by the historic Indian university of Nalanda (-5th c. CE, with international students even from China), or the Baghdad Bayt-al-Hikma (early 9th c. CE), which model spread throughout the Islamic world, including the Caliphate of Cordoba, and Toledo in Europe.

The Western university system started in Crusading times in Bologna (late 11th c. CE), shortly after the fall of Toledo brought its vast library under Christian control. (The exact “official” church start date for the Crusades is irrelevant, as pointed out in my paper presented at the conference.4)  That is, the Western university system originated in a change in church policy towards non-Christian books, from burning them to learning from them. This change of policy was justified by pretending that the imported knowledge—both its origin and content—were theologically correct. The fantastic claim was advanced that the secular knowledge in those Arabic books was all due to (theologically correct) early “Greeks”. This was intended to belittle the contributions of Muslims, black Egyptians, and others to that world knowledge. During the Inquisition, which followed, Europeans never dared acknowledge non-Christian sources and Western historians helped pass it all off as their own original ideas, as in the cases of Copernicus and Ibn Shatir, or Newton and calculus.5 This cumulative false history was later used by Hume, Kant6 and many others to justify racism. The “soft power” of that false history was amplified by Macaulay who used it to impose Western education (and the related indoctrination), and thus establish colonialism.7 The content of the imported non-Western knowledge was made theologically correct through reinterpretation (and by modifying the Christian doctrine to Christian rational theology, a modification8 of Islamic rational theology).

This paternal link between the church and the Western university persisted for centuries, with the church being the key consumer of the students produced by the university. The industrial revolution weakened the link, but did not sever it. In the middle of the 20th c., Harvard, Princeton, and Yale refused to keep Isaac Newton’s long-suppressed papers9 in their library, since he had detailed how the church had distorted the Bible. Even as late as 2003, after the secret was out, the Cambridge Newton scholar, Whiteside, tried to hang on to that falsehood by abusing me10 for pointing to that “cartload” of Newton’s suppressed papers. Scholars from Harvard are still defending those fairy tales about Greek achievements and the Copernican and Newtonian revolution.

In short, for much of its 900 years of existence, the Western university served a propagandist function, like the students it produced, and that tendency still persists. The aim, like that of the church, was to train students to persuade others, by any means, including false history. In contrast, in each of the above mentioned non-Western higher-learning models, students tried to convince themselves, for they were seeking truth, or wisdom, or the right way to live, so unethical tricks had no place at all.

This difference between the two models is also reflected in the processes of validating knowledge. In the West it is a hush-hush process: the “merit” of a Western academic is judged by papers published in journals where referees will review it in secret. Though this secretive process is touted as allowing referees greater freedom to criticise someone in authority, the process is widely used and perhaps intended to suppress those not in authority. It strongly resembles the system of censorship designed by the church to preserve its authority. Those critics who escaped the censor where suppressed by branding them “heretics”, just as critics, especially non-Westerners, are easily labelled as “cranks” today, for challenging Western authority, no arguments needed. That is especially so in hard sciences, where the majority of the Western educated are illiterate, and must rely on the guidance of authority to decide truth. (And scientists are forced to specialise, hence still depend upon authority to decide truth.) This “criterion of reputability” (as distinct from “refutability”) helped the church to sustain egregiously bad beliefs, like the date of creation set at 9 a.m. On 23 October 4004 BC by the Vice Chancellor of Cambridge. This procedure is of little value, if the aim is truth. The authority to decide “reputability” is today exercised by editors who secretively appoint referees. So, our faith in that system of validating knowledge rests largely on our faith in the honesty of editors and referees of scholarly journals.

Some editors and referees surely are honest, but all certainly are not. Objective claims about this system of validation are impossible (either way), since it is secretive, and has never been studied. “Horror stories” abound. For example, when credit for my work,11 called a paradigm shift in physics, was given to a former President of the Royal Society, by naming it after him,12 in consultation with him,13 and well after he was personally informed14 of my work, the editor of the American Mathematical Society just published some post-facto references to my work,15 and refused to permit me to bring out the fact that this was the second attempt. He stuck to the decision, despite a petition by many academics that I should have a right to reply. If this is what happens in full public view, one shudders at the thought of what happens under cover of secrecy.

In contrast, the transparent process of validating knowledge in India was one of public debate. So seriously were these debates taken, that a pundit (Mandana Misra) who had decided to die, and had buried himself up to his neck, waited before dying, in that condition, to complete the debate to which he was challenged. There were certain rules for settling debates. Ignorance or misrepresentation of the opponent’s position (purva paksha) meant the debate was lost. Wildavsky should note.

A refusal to ape the West is commonly misrepresented as an uncritical rejection! However, the consensus at the decolonisation conference was that, though Western universities have widely rejected non-Western knowledge as lacking contemporary significance,16 our rejection of the West would be a critical one.

So what would this critical rejection consist of? My own paper concerned hard sciences which helped to establish colonisation, and which remain the carrot today for Western education.17 As I explicitly stated, the aim was not to complain, as Wildavsky wrongly maintains, but to outline an alternative curriculum in (a) math, (b) science, and (c) the history and philosophy of science. The influence of the church on Western universities has led to the intrusion of Christian theology even into mathematics and science, which must be eliminated together with false history.

The part about history (of science) is easiest to understand. The West has surely contributed to knowledge, but that contribution has been vastly exaggerated by a false history which must be rejected. Standard Western texts still attribute most pre-Crusade science to the Greeks, and then jump to post-renaissance Western sources.18 This false history “softened” influential but gullible sections of the colonised, who believed it without checking.19 It enabled Macaulay to amplify that “soft power” by instituting colonial education—a key means of indoctrination which helped to create an elite class of colonised, loyal to the coloniser, who sustained colonialism. Accordingly, for decolonisation, this false history must first be discarded, from “Euclid” and “Claudius Ptolemy”, to Copernicus and the claim that Newton invented the calculus.20 Regrettably, many Western journals (and even discussion lists) still suppress discussion of this in their forums. Obviously, decolonisation cannot be done by first asking the West for permission the way Wildavsky misrepresents the conference petition to Unesco! Why should one validate this changed history according to Western norms of subjecting oneself to their secretive editorial control? Let it be validated on the non-Western norm of open debate. Let the earlier Western claims be so validated. It is to encourage this that I have offered a prize of RM 10,000 (around USD 3300) for reliable primary evidence about the existence of “Euclid”.21

The connection of math to theology is a bit harder to understand. Western mathematics started off with Egyptian mystery geometry, which understood mathematics as mathesis or a means to arouse the soul and make it remember its past lives (as in the story of Socrates and the slave boy, in Plato’s Meno.). That notion of soul was cursed by the post-Nicene church22 while the post-Crusade church reinterpreted math as a doctrine of reason to be used for persuasion,23 to help convert Muslims. This had an interesting fallout on the calculus. The 16th c. Jesuits based in Cochin applied the Toledo model of translation to India, to import the Indian calculus to a Europe barely learning decimal arithmetic.24 The infinities of calculus were naturally confounded with the eternity of theology, and that befuddled Europeans like Descartes25 who blundered and stated that the length of a curved line is beyond the human mind. (In India children were taught to measure it using a string!26) Newton thought he had resolved the issue with his “fluxions”, which only made time metaphysical,27 and eventually led to the failure of his physics. The present-day formal math of Russell and Hilbert derives from that wrong belief, contrary to commonsense, that Western metaphysics is universal and more reliable than physics. It teaches that the problem with calculus is resolved by limits, using formal real numbers erected using set theory. This biased metaphysics28 has nil practical value (except for purposes of indoctrination), and makes elementary math difficult. It lacks conceptual clarity: 450 years of effort on the calculus by the best in the West have still not given us a clear definition of the derivative which tells us whether or not a discontinuous function is differentiable for physical applications.29

The new math curriculum discards limits, formal math and set theory as arising from religiously biased Western metaphysics.30 It teaches calculus without limits based on the realistic philosophy of zeroism.31 The course has been successfully tested through actual experiments on 5 groups. This new technique better suits practical mathematics, using computer technology (without having to say that computer arithmetic is forever erroneous), and it also fits better with the atomistic beliefs of al Ashari and others. As expected, some Westerners have responded in propaganda mode: the editor of a Cambridge journal solicited my book for review, and the reviewer simply denied the existence of this philosophy!32 He falsely stated that I was not trained in math, along with other assorted lies! (Seems to be pattern here!) There is also a cover-up operation going on on the fundamental issue I raised a decade ago:33 that logic is neither culturally universal, nor empirically certain, a point which undermines most Western philosophy, not just mathematics.34

The other curriculum change I suggested was in physics. Since physics rests on math, a religious bias in math is bound to creep into physics. Thus, the first lesson in physics today relates to Newton’s “laws”. However, the belief that the cosmos is governed by eternal “laws” is not a scientific (refutable) belief, but is part of post-Crusade theology.35 This is an anti-Islamic belief, and has been recently used by newspapers such as the Guardian, London, to run down Islam as intrinsically anti-scientific.36 I also went into the content of Newton’s “laws”, and during my talk, I experimentally demonstrated that they fail: because Newton’s laws are reversible while most mundane experience is irreversible. As pointed out at the start of my talk,37 it is, of course, possible to save any theory from any experiment by piling on the hypothesis, as is done in current university texts in thermodynamics.38 Though relativity arose as a correction to Newton’s mistake in making time metaphysical,39 while trying to make the calculus rigorous (and not due to the Michelson-Morley experiment,40 as incorrectly taught in current university texts), its proper understanding was derailed, because Einstein grabbed credit for it,41 without fully understanding the theory.42 Einstein went on to become a figure of great scientific authority, and because the Western technique of validation is to rely on authority, scientific development was derailed for a century. Einstein is, thus, a key example to demonstrate the failure of Western methods of validating knowledge. (Scientifically illiterate Westerners who would rush to the stock device of condemning this thesis as “crank”, should pause to consider the point mentioned earlier, why the person ranked the best mathematician in the world, wanted credit for same thesis, in his Einstein centenary lecture!)

To summarise, the following changes were proposed. (1) Eliminate the falsehoods in Western history. (2) Eliminate the religious bias in formal math and (3) in physics, by teaching calculus without limits and functional differential equations, respectively. Naturally, I also pointed to the dimension of hegemony. Referring these changes to Western-endorsed experts would raise a conflict of interests, for their lifetime accumulation of academic “merit” might vanish overnight if they agreed to the changes. So, there must be a change in the process, not merely the particulars of the curriculum. Hence, for these proposed curriculum changes to be successfully implemented, a fourth change is first needed. (4) A new model of validating knowledge, by eliminating the bad technique of reliance on the opinions of Western-endorsed experts articulated in secret. That technique encourages subservience to the West; if these “experts” have anything to say, they should debate it publicly. Instead of papers published, through a secretive process, I have proposed to measure academic merit by public debate and the demonstrable benefits to the community. This would expose the coopted colonised elite.

The West might impose its educational model on client governments, but it is amusing to claim, as Wildavsky does, that the Western university model is perfect, so there is no alternative but to ape it. One could more confidently assert the opposite: that the West has little alternative but to implement the recommendations made above. For example, bad math education was one reason for the sub-prime crisis: the managers (from the best Western universities) lacked a personal understanding of the complex math of financial derivatives, and the risks they were taking. The traditional Western route of assimilating non-Western knowledge by attributing it to a Westerner has failed this time! So, it is time for Western universities to openly acknowledge and accept non-Western knowledge if they are not to decline swiftly!

C. K. Raju

Notes:

3 See for example, my recent debate in H-Asia, with Witzel, from Harvard, which is archived on my blog, http://ckraju.net/blog/?p=56 and previous entries, and elsewhere on the Internet. Witzel grandly announced that I had made a silly mistake in supposing that early Indian dice were cubic, and explained that this mistake arose due to bad translation. In fact, my paper never mentioned the word “cube” (I spoke of dice with five faces!), and I did my own translations, and so on. In the absence of a public rejoinder, Witzel’s absurdities would have stood on the reputation of Harvard. The debate also brings out what I regard as the essence of racism: double standards. Thus, Harvard historians use one process to date manuscripts purportedly coming from “Greeks”, and another for Indian manuscripts.

5 A brief summary is in C. K. Raju, Is Science Western in Origin? (Multiversity, 2009). More details and references in C. K. Raju, Cultural Foundations of Mathematics (Pearson Longman, 2007)

6 Immanuel Kant, Observations on the Feeling of the Beautiful and the Sublime, trans. John T. Goldthwait, University of California Press, Berkeley, 1991, pp. 110–1.

7 C. K. Raju, Ending Academic Imperialism: a Beginning, Citizens International, Penang, 2011. Draft available from http://multiworldindia.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/ckr-Tehran-talk-on-academic-imperialism.pdf. Also, “Ending Academic Imperialism in the Hard Sciences: a Beginning”, chp. 7 in Confronting Academic Knowledge, ed. Sue-San Gahremani Ghajar and Seyyed-Abdolhamid Mirhosseini, Iran University Press, Tehran, 2011.

8 C. K. Raju, “Benedict’s Maledicts”, Indian Journal of Secularism, 10(3) (2006) pp. 79-90. At http://www.zcommunications.org/benedicts-maledicts-by-c-k-raju. Also, “Islam and science”, Indian Journal of Secularism, 15(2), 2011, pp. 14-29.

9 C. K. Raju, “Newton’s secret”, chp. 4 in The Eleven Pictures of Time (Sage, 2003).

10 http://mathforum.org/kb/thread.jspa?threadID=383971&messageID=1184812#1184812 “[HM] Raju’s postings on the topic “Unpublished manuscripts of Newton ?” This post is not part of the main thread at http://mathforum.org/kb/message.jspa?messageID=1184738&tstart=0#reply-tree. Clearly he persisted in trying to suppress the truth about Newton by abusing me. My response was that, on my tradition, resorting to abuse was a sure sign of loss in debate.

11 C. K. Raju, Time: Towards a Consistent Theory (Kluwer, 1994), chp. 5B, http://arxiv.org/pdf/0808.0767v1. The Eleven Pictures of Time, cited above. Also, “The electrodynamic 2-body problem and quantum mechanics”, Found. Phys. 34, 2004, pp. 937–62.

12 G. W. Johnson and M. E. Walker , “Sir Michael Atiyah on the Nature of Space”, Notices of the American Mathematical Society, 53(6), 2006, pp. 674-678. Annotated excerpts at: http://ckraju.net/atiyah/Johnson_Walker_excerpt.pdf.

13 See email by M. E. Walker that Atiyah did indeed see the work prior to publication. http://ckraju.net/atiyah/Walker_email.pdf.

15 M. Walker, “Retarded Differential Equations and Quantum Mechanics”. Notices of the American Mathematical Society 54(4), 2007, p. 472. Available at http://www.ams.org/notices/200704/commentary-web.pdf (scroll to the 2nd page). However, the Society for Scientific Values later found a prima facie case against Atiyah, see http://www.scientificvalues.org/cases.html, case no. 2 of 2007, Atiyah-Raju case.

16 Thus, while there are separate departments for studying Indian philosophy, say, it would be difficult to find any reference to that in discussions of the current philosophy of science. See, also, the debate with Witzel, cited above.

17 Ending Academic Imperialism, cited above.

18 Is Science Western in Origin? Multiversity, Penang, 2009. Also available as a Kindle book.

19 E.g. Ram Mohun Roy, see, Ending Academic Imperialism, cited above.

20 C. K. Raju, Cultural Foundations of Mathematics, Pearson Longman, 2007.

21 For some idea of what is not reliable, see, C. K. Raju, “Goodbye Euclid!”, Bharatiya Samajik Chintan 7 (4) (New Series), 2009, pp. 255–264. http://ckraju.net/papers/mathEducation1Eculid.pdf

22 C. K. Raju, “The curse on ‘cyclic’ time”, chp. 2 in The Eleven Pictures of Time, Sage, 2003.

23 “The Religious Roots of Mathematics”, Theory, Culture & Society 23(1–2) 2006, Spl. Issue ed. Mike Featherstone, Couze Venn, Ryan Bishop, and John Phillips, pp. 95–97.

24 Cultural Foundations of Mathematics, cited above.

25 R. Descartes, The Geometry, trans. D. Eugene and M. L. Latham, Encyclopaedia Britannica, Chicago, 1996, , Book 2, p. 544.

26 C. K. Raju, “The Indian Rope Trick”, Bharatiya Samajik Chintan 7 (4) (New Series) (2009) pp. 265–269, at http://ckraju.net/papers/MathEducation2RopeTrick.pdf.

27 C. K. Raju, “Time: What is it That it can be Measured” Science&Education, 15(6), 2006, pp. 537–551.

28 C. K. Raju, “Teaching mathematics with a different philosophy. 1: Formal mathematics as biased metaphysics” Science and Culture, 77 (7-8), 2011, pp. 275-80.

29 Briefly, a discontinuous function is not differentiable on undergraduate calculus, but is differentiable on the Schwartz theory of distributions. But neither definition can be directly used for the nonlinear differential equations of physics, in the presence of shocks. The better way out is to appeal to the empirical, rather than Western mathematical authority. See, “Renormalization and shocks”, appendix to Cultural Foundations of Mathematics, cited above. An earlier paper from the days when I still believed in formal math is “Distributional Matter Tensors in Relativity”, Proceedings of the 5th Marcel Grossmann Meeting on General Relativity, ed. D. Blair and M. J. Buckingham, World Scientific, Singapore, 1989, pp. 421–23. http://arxiv.org/pdf/0804.1998v1.

30 C. K. Raju, “Teaching mathematics with a different philosophy. 1: Formal mathematics as biased metaphysics” Science and Culture, 77 (7-8), 2011, pp. 275-80.

31 C. K. Raju, “Teaching mathematics with a different philosophy. 2: Calculus without limits” Science and Culture, 77 (7-8), 2011, pp. 281-86., and “Calculus without limits: report of an experiment”, presented at the 2nd People’s Education Congress, Mumbai, 2009. (http://ckraju.net/papers/Calculus-without-limits-presentation.pdf)

32 The reviewer adopted the extraordinary procedure of reviewing only two chapters of the book, justifying this with the preposterous claim that there was no philosophy beyond that in the book! Assuming the reviewer was not illiterate, he could hardly have missed the new philosophy articulated in chp. 3 and chp. 8. So much for the trust in Western editors! (If the reviewer was illiterate, the fault still lies with the editor.)

33 C. K. Raju, “Computers, mathematics education, and the alternative epistemology of the calculus in the Yuktibhasa”, Philosophy East and West, 51(3) (2001) pp. 325-61. Available from http://ckraju.net/papers/Hawaii.pdf.

34 See my article on “Logic” in the Springer Encyclopedia of Non-Western Science, Technology and Medicine, 2008. Draft at http://ckraju.net/papers/Nonwestern-logic.pdf.

35 Thomas Aquinas, Summa Theologica, First part of the Second Part, 91,1.

36 C. K. Raju, “Islam and science”, Indian Journal of Secularism, 15(2), 2011, pp. 14-29.

37 See the presentation at http://ckraju.net/papers/decolonising.pdf, and the video at http://vimeo.com/26506961. My talk is the first half hour.

38 C. K. Raju, “Thermodynamic time” Physics Education (India) 9, 1992, pp.44-62.

39 C. K. Raju, “Einstein’s time” chp. 3b, in Time: Towards a Consistent Theory, cited above, and article in Science and Education, cited above.

40 C. K. Raju, “The Michelson-Morley Experiment”, Physics Education 8, 1991, pp. 193-200.

41 The reference on “Einstein’s time” above has numerous quotes from Poincare. This is also explained for the layperson in The Eleven Pictures of Time, cited above.

42 The suggested curriculum change counters Einstein’s mistake, explained in “Electromagnetic time”, chp. 5b in Time: Towards a Consistent Theory, cited above. http://arxiv.org/pdf/0808.0767v1. Difficulties in this matter, which arose during the Groningen debate are clarified in “The electrodynamic 2-body problem…”, cited above. http://arxiv.org/pdf/quant-ph/0511235v1. There is an online explanation of some of this for the layperson at http://ckraju.net/misc/Einstein.html.

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  2. I was rather disappointed with the response of C K Raju to the comment made by Ben Wildavsky. Though the editors have commented on the sweeping generalisations made by both posts, I feel that while Wildavsky raises some genuine issues that need to be debated, the response by Raju offers almost nothing in response except empty rhetoric.

    This is unfortunate as there have been interesting experiments in India itself to counter the examination oriented system that was instituted in the country, which was termed as “university” by the colonial government but violated its ideals in spirit.. One notable illustration of these experiments is Tagore’s Visva Bharati. Tagore very consciously tried to break free of the anglicised exam centric system through Visva Bharati for which he drew inspiration from both the ancient higher learning traditions of India and some western ideals that he saw as universal. To quote Tagore “Whatever we understand and enjoy in human production instantly becomes ours, wherever they might have their
    origin”.

    Another experiment was Indian Institute of Science, a kind of joint venture between Tatas and the imperial government, which gave primacy to research and is, in the present time, India’s most prolific institution in terms of research output. It is no coincidence that both Rabindranath Tagore and J N Tata travelled extensively overseas. They were aware of what is possible to achieve within a university system and both tried to institute organisations which can fulfil its true ideals and potential. They were confident in India’s own intellectual legacy and thus were not frightened of being swamped by the fresh ideas emanating from Europe and elsewhere. The reason behind why these experiments have not been able to achieve their full potential is complex and deserves our attention but one thing is assured; the answer lies not in the false
    dichotomy of East and West that is manifestly present in CK Raju’s post.

  3. As I stated, deprecatory adjectives are easy for they require only knowledge of English, while engaging with substantive content is hard especially for the Western educated who tend to be scientifically illiterate. As I further emphasized, not knowing the purva paksha (the opponent’s position) is a sure loss of debate.

    Surja Dutta amusingly calls my proposals for curricular reform in math and physics as “rhetoric” though he is unable to point out a single flaw in those proposals. As a business manager he clearly never learnt enough math and physics to understand them. For the discerning, this only underlines the complete inability of Western-trained scholars to engage in substantive debate.

    The glossary of my book The Eleven Pictures of Time defined the term West as follows.

    West. On the earth, east and west are relative, and Rome was to the West of Constantinople (Istanbul), the shorter way round the earth. The Roman church followed Augustine’s theology, creating a division between Western and Eastern Christianity—a division that later broadened into a division between Western Christianity and everyone else. According to Toynbee, every universal state must have a universal church, and Western Christianity is the religion associated with the only surviving universal state. This is the West for which capitalism is a cultural value according to Huntington.

    So, the West is a category, not a direction in space, as Surja Dutta misunderstands it, and the correct antonym is non-West, not East. In the 1990’s many people really thought that the West had triumphed before the realities set in.

    Surja Dutta: if you really mean what you say, do tell Oxford to discard Toynbee (and the rest of Western history, since Orosius) from its library as voluminous trash. That would fulfil one of my specific demands! But why is it OK for the West to formulate military strategy in those terms, but not OK for the targeted non-Westerners (NOT easterners) to respond to it? Such demonstrations of slavish loyalty may be good business management, but they leave us cold.

  4. @Datta,
    “I feel that while Wildavsky raises some genuine issues that need to be debated, the response by Raju offers almost nothing in response except empty rhetoric.”

    Spoken like a true “Sepoy”!!! CONgrats.

  5. Dear Dr. Raju,
    I believe you have something here in terms of unpacking the decolonization of higher education and education in general. Do you think that a fresh brush of scholarship is needed to restore a non-Westernized historical perspective globally as there are many non-Westernized countries who are affected by the colonized or hegemonized version of the truth?

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  7. The responses of CK Raju and Sandeep underscore the point I made about the futility of positing the debate on decolonisation of university as a conflict between West and East or as CK Raju prefers to to put it “West and the Rest” It is not a new category as Niall Ferguson will testify but it is an intellectually sterile one.

    A rational consequence of this kind of world view is that anyone with an European sounding name (read Ben Wildavsky) can be accused of having a ‘deprecatory attitude’ if he or she finds the rhetoric about imperialism continuing in disguise in the present time through university system a bit silly. And if anyone with a name reflecting his or her origin in a country once colonised (read Surja Datta), suggests that the “West and the Rest” thesis leads us to a blind alley, it is automatically supposed that the person demonstrates ‘slavish loyalty’ or is being true ‘sepoy’. It is rational but not necessarily very intelligent.

  8. I have heard both sides and from my limited scope of knowledge, I have understood that people do not like change, and they recoil at the thought of having to question beliefs what they have grown up considering as true.

    I have an MSc in physics and perhaps am not good at that but can clearly see that while mr ck raju does indulge in rhetoric he is clearly a man with ideas and a man who is willing to question all the way. The other side simply asks to not question. Surely freedom of speech is what people in the west believe, why fear?.
    Information is power, hence those institutions which certify what authentic information is needs to be put to critical analysis.

    Is surja datta and mr ben wildavsky afraid to confront the role academics and academies played in colonization. Do they claim that academics are wholly moral and universities entirely pure and innocent?.

    Question everything and decide only on the basis of evidence. If western academics could research and write about how things developed in non-western world, it is about time that the non-western academics also start reading what the west has been doing for the past 1000 yrs.

    If knowledge is power. The authority which certifies it are in a greater position of power. This is a lesson we learn from religion.

  9. After reading this post, I did not see the collation between Wildavsky’s argument and Raju’s. The assimilation of non western knowledge into the curriculum seems to me a reversal of religious pretenses. Forming ideas on another set of religious doctrine and not on facts outside of the different religious doctrines.

  10. Sad to see that this comment like that of Surja Dutta’s is just polemical and based on such comprehensive ignorance of what is being suggested. Speaks poorly of Western education that people feel free to comment without understanding. They mistake such empty polemics for debate. In Indian tradition that disqualifies you for ever. You also need to understand some mathematics and science first to comment on my claim that both are peremeated by Western Christian theology. Non-Western knowledge of the calculus was “assimilated” into the Western theological understanding of mathematics. That was a clear case of regress, and is not useful to anyone else. My point is that that theology is a source of power, and should be thrown out of both mathematics and science. Do you agree? .

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